![]() Because of this, this will not become am "newbie forum." It is for this reason that I created a sticky in both this forum and the other "newbie forum" that explicitly state these two forums are for the planning and organizing of their respective events. As a result, I have to make sure I was explicit in the purpose of both of these forums that contain the word "new" in their description. The mods discussed creating a Newbie forum for Newbie interaction and Newbie questions, and this was, as stated above, not something desired by mods. If this section starts to become such a forum, I have no problems closing it. The mods discussed a forum that would be for people new to Defcon to ask questions, or whatnot, but it was flatly denied due to the opposite of support for it. This is explicitly for the *planning* of a pre-Defcon orientation-like event lead by people with Defcon Experience(TM) that want to help inform people new to Defcon about the many pleasures, risks, fun, and excitement that Defcon has to offer them. This forum is not for newbie, people new to Defcon or people new to hacking. Both newbs, and people who simply haven't had the resources or the reasons until recently.ĮDIT: God this is confusing, looking over the forums it appears as this post is in the wrong forum, but looking a page back in the thread, it appears as it is in the correct thread *sigh* The split of threads was not clear to the tangled skeins of my mind. Of course, it'll be significantly done (for now) by Defcon, but it's probably something other people would be interested in as well. I just bought a house, and am getting ready to start setting my own up, but am flying mostly blind. There is one exception to that.I would like to see a talk about setting up your own security lab/attack lab/home playnetwork. I would love to see a newbie track, but I don't really care about newbie talks, I would prefer newbie events/games. It's one thing to try something in your own home, but it's entirely different to do it in front of an audience of people who are much much better than you. Now, I went to DC16, so I'm a little more seasoned for this year, but it's intimidating for people to step up and try something they don't know how to do. A simple soldering class on Thursday or Friday would do wonders for self confidence before stepping into the HHV. I didn't want to join a CTF game only to lose horribly and not learn anything. I would love for there to be specific designated CTF games for newbies. I would love to see a network open and available for newbies to screw around on all weekend. What I would most like to see, and what I mentioned in the suggestions thread 6 months ago, are hands on items. On the other hand, you don't want to start blindly ping sweeping your local ISP's network not knowing what the hell you're doing. If you want to break into CompSec, you better know how to use, and have boku experience with every tool available. MORE so additionally, many of the things commonly associated with computer security can be regarded as murky legally unless you run your own network (which, esp. ![]() As someone else mentioned, additionally there are people who are experts in one field but to the detriment of others. ![]() My own personal reasons for espousing a newbie track for a convention are simple.not everyone you get at a con has been doing this for a long time. Wow, you say, total noobsauce at the 1337 hacker convention! I know, I reply, I know. I was a high school teacher at this point in time one year ago. Speaking from my own particular background about a newbie track.
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